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	<title>Comments on: local haole</title>
	<link>http://pd-hawaii.com/blog/2007/05/09/local-haole/</link>
	<description>This is a place for members of Progressive Democrats of Hawai‘i to express their thoughts and exasperations about political happenings.</description>
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		<title>By: tomas</title>
		<link>http://pd-hawaii.com/blog/2007/05/09/local-haole/#comment-3734</link>
		<dc:creator>tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 07:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being asian on the mainland and hearing the ching chong ching crap, I can relate to the racist comments thrown at you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being asian on the mainland and hearing the ching chong ching crap, I can relate to the racist comments thrown at you</p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Baggins</title>
		<link>http://pd-hawaii.com/blog/2007/05/09/local-haole/#comment-3574</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, there's local and there's local here.  I grew up at the end of the plantation era -- when people like my parents moved from the camps to buy cookie cutter homes in the Kahului dream city subdivision increments -- I still had more in common with my upcountry friends than the townie kids who were now my neighbors.

Even as an adult, we can go to the Maui Arts &#38; Cultural Center for events, but it's not a real local place -- Pundy could go because he had the cash -- but a lot of the cultural offerings is haole (which my Scots Irish wife loves) or Hawaiian (which we both enjoy), but rarely is it purely local which can be quite different (and no, my wife doesn't always understand the distinction between the host culture and the plantation-local culture).

Wasn't there a dialog a decade ago on what's local?

I also don't think Hawaii is necessarily unique in that regard -- I went to school in the Bay Area and those native San Franciscans may have said it jokingly but they felt different from all the newbies (especially those calling the City 'Frisco which was a big no-no) -- certain things stick with you because you grew up in it.  I agree that local haoles (whose parents didn't manage the plantation) probably get a raw deal from growing up among kids who naturally took out some of the frustrations of their parents about the class divide on their classmates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, there&#8217;s local and there&#8217;s local here.  I grew up at the end of the plantation era &#8212; when people like my parents moved from the camps to buy cookie cutter homes in the Kahului dream city subdivision increments &#8212; I still had more in common with my upcountry friends than the townie kids who were now my neighbors.</p>
<p>Even as an adult, we can go to the Maui Arts &amp; Cultural Center for events, but it&#8217;s not a real local place &#8212; Pundy could go because he had the cash &#8212; but a lot of the cultural offerings is haole (which my Scots Irish wife loves) or Hawaiian (which we both enjoy), but rarely is it purely local which can be quite different (and no, my wife doesn&#8217;t always understand the distinction between the host culture and the plantation-local culture).</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t there a dialog a decade ago on what&#8217;s local?</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think Hawaii is necessarily unique in that regard &#8212; I went to school in the Bay Area and those native San Franciscans may have said it jokingly but they felt different from all the newbies (especially those calling the City &#8216;Frisco which was a big no-no) &#8212; certain things stick with you because you grew up in it.  I agree that local haoles (whose parents didn&#8217;t manage the plantation) probably get a raw deal from growing up among kids who naturally took out some of the frustrations of their parents about the class divide on their classmates.</p>
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		<title>By: teddy freddy</title>
		<link>http://pd-hawaii.com/blog/2007/05/09/local-haole/#comment-3572</link>
		<dc:creator>teddy freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 02:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pd-hawaii.com/blog/2007/05/09/local-haole/#comment-3572</guid>
		<description>Bravo!  Well written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo!  Well written.</p>
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